. immigration reform, does it really have a chance this time? we will get answers from karl rove and joe troop. >> a politically polarized washington is making noise about a bipartisan effort to fix the nation's immigration system. we are going to talk about that tonight with political analyst karl rove and joe troupe. immigration ended on the skap heap back in 2007. what that i cans it this time around any different? can this actually get done? >> i think it can get done this time. there are a lot of pitfalls but there are a bunch of differences, too. democrats believe the nation is ready for this. polls are showing 77 percent of americans want some kind of immigration reform big immigration reform package out there. the other thing that is different we have someone like marco rubio who has the ability hopefully to pull both traditional republicans as well as tea party republicans together on this issue. >> karl does rubio from the power to unite the repub dlican party? it is fractured and put an issue like immigration with pitfalls it may be tough to pull it together. >> it does. it will be.